スキル名 状態 マスター
レベル
効果 条件
パンチ パンチ Active 20 前方に突進し、前にいる多数の敵に向かって打撃を与える。  
スキルレベル 消費MP 効果
1 20 MP 20 消費、ダメージ135%、最大 3匹攻撃
2 20 MP 20 消費、ダメージ150%、最大 3匹攻撃
3 20 MP 20 消費、ダメージ165%、最大 3匹攻撃
4 20 MP 20 消費、ダメージ180%、最大 3匹攻撃
5 24 MP 24 消費、ダメージ195%、最大 3匹攻撃
6 24 MP 24 消費、ダメージ210%、最大 3匹攻撃
7 24 MP 24 消費、ダメージ225%、最大 3匹攻撃
8 24 MP 24 消費、ダメージ240%、最大 3匹攻撃
9 28 MP 28 消費、ダメージ255%、最大 3匹攻撃
10 28 MP 28 消費、ダメージ270%、最大 3匹攻撃
11 28 MP 28 消費、ダメージ285%、最大 3匹攻撃
12 28 MP 28 消費、ダメージ300%、最大 3匹攻撃
13 32 MP 32 消費、ダメージ315%、最大 3匹攻撃
14 32 MP 32 消費、ダメージ330%、最大 3匹攻撃
15 32 MP 32 消費、ダメージ345%、最大 3匹攻撃
16 32 MP 32 消費、ダメージ360%、最大 3匹攻撃
17 36 MP 36 消費、ダメージ375%、最大 3匹攻撃
18 36 MP 36 消費、ダメージ390%、最大 3匹攻撃
19 36 MP 36 消費、ダメージ405%、最大 3匹攻撃
20 36 MP 36 消費、ダメージ420%、最大 3匹攻撃

パンチ

コメント749件

コメンテーター
 1 

これ・・・戦士のラッシュの退化版ですよね?

2008 8/1 1:40 PM
海x殺戮x賊
 2 

二次でこれは強い・・・

2008 8/3 12:01 AM
風音
 3 

正直420%とか強すぎますよw

50LVの人4000とか出ていたような・・・

2008 8/3 2:51 PM
通りすがり
 4 

溜めが1秒ほど、もちろん移動中でも被ダメしても解除はされません。
対象3体ですが、範囲は思ったほど広くは無いです。
発動後、移動先にて1秒ほど無敵時間があります。
吹き飛ばした敵をすり抜けて行く程度ですね。
集め狩り用な気もしますが・・・。

2008 8/3 3:03 PM
拳闘士
 5 

パンチ強すぎるっしょ

2008 8/4 9:26 AM
忍者
 6 

なんかむかつく~~~~ 
><

2008 8/5 10:48 AM
 7 

これは強い

溜めずに攻撃すれば、無敵時間のおかげで1ダメージも喰らわずにいられる・・・

2008 8/5 11:12 PM
インファイターになりました つばき
 8 

やっと2次転職できました・・・・・・・・

バイタライズに、上げるつもりが

かっこよくてこれに1振りました

これは、溜めてる時に、落ちても

足場が無くなった瞬間に、発動すると足場復帰!

        =効率か上がる

ということです長々すいませんでした

2008 8/6 9:22 AM
水兵
 9 

もうバイタライズどうでもいいやwww
ってなっちゃいますよね・3・

2008 8/6 12:49 PM
匿名
 10 

パンチ⇒ムーンサルト⇒パンチ⇒ムーンサルト
とやると無敵です。しかし敵の数が3体以下の
場合だけですが。。

2008 8/6 1:58 PM
艦砲射撃
 11 

今の楽しさのためにパンチ振りは正直のちのち危険だよ。バイタライズも上げんと

2008 8/6 2:47 PM
オーガの賊
 12 

バイタライズいらなくないですか・・・所詮10だし・・・
同じようなリーチで戦う斬り賊はバイタライズ無しでいけるので俺は振ってません。

2008 8/6 5:52 PM
海賊君
 13 

バイタライズ降らないのは大変ですよ!
斬り族は確かにリーチは同じ様ですが
LUKが高いため回避率が高いじゃないですか
海賊は戦士みたくHPは命ですよ!

2008 8/6 5:59 PM
海賊
 14 

パンチってアサルターに似てる

2008 8/6 6:52 PM
ななっすい
 15 

パンチは溜めてるとアサルターとほぼ同様の働きをしてくれますよ。

狩場などで敵に攻撃しながらはしご省略できるのでうまく使えば効率をグンとあえれるかも。

あと敵にあててもキャラが移動しなかった時は無敵時間は発生しません。

2008 8/7 9:10 AM
あささ
 16 

ラッシュとアサルターを足して2で割った感じだね

2008 8/7 9:20 AM
 17 

敵がいる時のみ 突進するのかな・・・・?

2008 8/8 4:38 PM
うほ
 18 

これって最大溜めで上のダメージですか?

2008 8/8 9:33 PM
名無し
 19 

パンチってスキルLv上げると敵の吹き飛ぶ距離
広がってませんか。
パンチからムーンサルトが届かなくなったんで疑問に思いました。

2008 8/10 1:33 AM
名無
 20 

>>19
MOBの吹き飛ぶ距離は自分も広がったと感じた。
が、自分のキャラの移動距離は広がって居ないと体感だが感じる。
吹き飛ぶ距離が増えるのは使い辛い。
キャラ移動距離も増加すればいいのだが。

2008 8/10 1:45 AM
インファイターになりました つばき
 21 

パンチって無敵あるけどまぁそれはおいといて

パンチは、MC等で迷惑かける場合があります

パンチでモンスターが吹っ飛んでそれが

他のキャラに、当たって死亡みたいなことが・・・・

MCは、経験地が減らないからまだいいほう・・・

でも 普通の狩場は、経験地が減るので・・・・・

長々すいませんでした ではまたねぇ

       ( *^▽^*)』

2008 8/11 7:22 PM
水無月
 22 

パンチってためてあれば空中でうてますよね?
アサルターのチョイ弱い版見たいな感じで使えるかな?

2008 8/13 7:33 PM
パンチのもうひとつの使い方
 23 

意外と知られていないようですがパンチを利用した裏技が存在しています
やり方は非常に簡単・しゃがみながらパンチのボタンを一回押すだけです
そうすると解除条件を満たすまでMPが減らなくなります
今のところ確認している解除条件は、パンチ、ブースター、ダッシュ使用とリログやマップ移動となっています
私はまだ2次職なので3次以降のスキルでの解除は未検証です
また、パンチのスキルレベルは問わず利用可能なようです
これを利用すると冗談抜きにMP薬なしでLvアップとか出来ますので是非ご活用ください

注意・おそらく不具合でこうなってるので修正されても泣かないようにしましょう

2008 8/14 9:18 AM
パンチの特徴
 24 

パンチですが右に撃った場合と左に撃った場合で多少違ってきます。

←向きでジャンプして空中でパンチを打つとキャラは固定で敵だけ飛んでいきます。
→向きで同じようなことをすると自分も飛んでいきます。

段差(足場)から撃っても同じようなことがおきます、
→向きでは自分も。
←向きでは敵だけ。

ジャンプでは届かない上の足場へは→向きでパンチをするとアサルターのように上の足場へ上れますが
←向きでは上れません。

ながながと失礼しました><

2008 8/14 9:34 AM
海賊?いいえ魔王です。
 25 

パンチs情報ありがとうございます。僕も試してみます。

2008 8/14 10:49 AM
海zoku
 26 

あの・・パンチってナックルじゃないと使えないんですか?

2008 8/16 8:44 PM
Endymion
 27 

パンチのもうひとつの使い方s

一応試してみたのですが数秒ごとに使った分だけのMPが一気に消費されてしまうのですが・・・
自分だけでしょうか?

パンチの特徴s

自分もそうだと思います
まさか方向で関係するとは・・・
メンテで統一されそうです

2008 8/16 9:52 PM
K☆Y
 28 

流石に強すぎるでしょ
いつか補正されそうな予感^^a

2008 8/17 12:03 AM
雑魚斬り賊
 29 

修正がかかると思われるスキル
あくまで予想なので絶対ではないです。
パンチ 無敵時間が短くなる(ほぼ確実に短くなるかと)たぶん威力は落とされない
フェイクショット プログレス有効になる
スローインボム  同じくプログレス有効(微妙)
トリプルファイア 表示ダメージMAXで210%
速度も少し早くなるといいな(期待薄)
クーリング、ファイア 威力上昇(期待薄い)
クリティなしで弱点でMAXでも3kがやっととかないわ
こんなところか
関係ないがアサルターで気絶→サベッジで気絶が解除されないのね

2008 8/17 1:40 AM
あはん
 30 

なんかレノリsの解説みるとパンチは4次で捨てスキルみたいですよ・・・Wアッパーあげとけばよかったよかいてありましたw

2008 8/18 1:04 AM
りんご
 31 

あのこのパンチつかったら動かない殿様とか動かせるんでしょうか?あと名前のパンチってスクリューパンチじゃないんですか?

2008 8/18 9:43 AM
チョコボ士
 32 

>31位置固定の敵は動かせません
外国版では英語でスクリューパンチだったのになぜこんなことになったのか・・・

2008 8/19 4:37 AM
パンチのもうひとつの使い方(追記1)
 33 

Endymionさんへ
MPが消費しないくなると書きましたが、正確にはちょっと語弊がありました
HPの減少か敵の撃破が起こるとそれまで使用した分のMPが一気に減り、MP自然回復で元の数値(+自然回復量)に戻るという仕様になっています
総合的に見るとプラスマイナスほぼ零、ということです
このことを考えて使うと、大体MP500程度あれば枯渇することなく活動できるでしょう
勘違いさせてしまうような表記ですみませんでした

さて追記です
解除条件がやや間違っていたので訂正します
パンチ・ブースター・ダッシュ、およびMPリカバリーの使用とリログでのみ解除を確認しました
マップ移動やch移動では解除されないようです

それでは3次転職ができたらまた詳細の追記に参ります
海賊の節約ライフを楽しみましょう

余談・私はMC卒業からLv66現在までおでん100個も消費してません そのくらい使えます

2008 8/20 10:13 AM
そこらの
 34 

ダッシュでつかえませんでした

2008 8/20 12:00 PM
あっちゅ
 35 

2次での、スキルでは、強すぎますネww        (パンチ)でも、攻撃したあとの、止まってる時間がいらないっすねww

2008 8/29 12:13 PM
匿名
 36 

パンチ溜めて使わない人はスキル1つか振らないほうがいいですよね
僕溜めないのに20まで振ってしまってMP36を連発とか・・・
ほんと後悔してます

2008 9/4 8:47 AM
不可
 37 

パンチのもうひとつの使い方関連

Pショップ、トレードに入っても解除されました。
後、ch移動も解除されます。

聖魔と狩ったらある意味一番黒字な拳賊。
次のパッチ辺りで修正されそう・・・

2008 9/4 3:28 PM
無名
 38 

36>溜めないと使い方によっては効率悪くなるわ。 37>ごめんよく言ってる意味がわからないわ

2008 9/4 9:10 PM
ライ
 39 

盗賊のサベジも超えるものもあるし
しかもガンは弓と同じリーチで連射だから
戦士の火力も歯が立たない・・・・
これでは海賊に職が偏ってしまう気がします。
ネクソンも少しずつパッチで威力が下がるという
可能性があります

2008 9/4 9:17 PM
匿名
 40 

いや、ガンがそこまでいくのにはものすごーーーーーく苦労の連続だぞ?
大体強くなるのは4次になってなおかつスキルが揃ってきた時だけだし
つまり150くらいになったら強くなる

2008 9/4 10:18 PM
匿名
 41 

パンチとムーンサルトを駆使しながら敵のターゲットをとり、安置でムーンサルト連打が一番いいとおもうので、溜めパンチを当てたやつと溜めてないパンチを当てたやつでわざわざ敵のHPにばらつきを与える必要はないと思うのですがどうでしょうか?

2008 9/5 9:33 AM
Endymion
 42 

うーん
なるほど・・・
そんな仕組みだったのかぁ・・・
でもパンチとブスタが解除条件に入っているのはつらいですね・・・
自分はパンチMAXなので・・
エルボ→ム-ンかなぁ
どっちにしろいつかは修正コースですね^^;

2008 9/6 3:58 AM
リーマン
 43 

パンチの裏技を書こうと思ったら上のほうにもう書いてあったorz
しかも1ヶ月以上前かよ!

2008 9/16 9:41 AM
雷同ユウト
 44 

50れべなら4000、5000くらい出る・・。

2008 9/17 5:52 PM
 45 

いや、もっといけるって!

2008 9/18 5:11 PM
イングリッシュ ティーチャー
 46 

パンチはか・な・りつかえますよね。
・・あ、バイタライズもわすれちゃだめだけどね。
これ振らないときついっ!

2008 11/1 4:16 PM
スーパーインファイター
 47 

50Lvパンチで桃マンなくても5Kでます(極じゃないです)

2008 11/2 12:34 AM
海賊?いいえ魔王です。
 48 

50レベで桃マン無くてもパンチ5 k行く?桃マン着けてなくても他装備が強かったら行くに決まってんじゃん
くだらん自慢乙

2008 11/2 7:56 AM
オッレ
 49 

パンチが威力さがる修正とか絶対ないでほしいw

2008 11/5 8:18 PM
BAReeeeeeeeeen
 50 

↑と同感

2008 11/5 8:36 PM
スーパーインファイター
 51 

48>>そうゆう君はどうなの?弱そうだな^^別に自慢じゃないけど普通にでちゃうから^^

2008 11/5 10:26 PM
スーパーインファイター
 52 

それじゃあ普通に強い人の装備借りればでるんですね? 吹いたよ君^^

2008 11/5 10:27 PM
スーパーインファイター
 53 

笑わせないでくれよ誰でも強くなれるわけじゃないんだから^^

2008 11/5 10:29 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 54 

まぁまぁみんな仲良くね?
火力なんかどーでもよくない?
ようは楽しければいいのよ
ゲームは楽しむためにあるんでしょ?
楽しまないのならなんのためにやるの?
俺TUEEEEEEEEEっていう自己満足なら一人で楽しんでね^^

俺的には友達とチャットしてたほうが狩りよりずっと楽しいけどね

2008 11/5 10:32 PM
海賊?いいえ魔王です。
 55 

50レベでパンチで5k行って満足してるやつの方が痛いよww
桃マン無くてもタコ有りかもしれんし攻撃軍手つけてたら普通に行くから

2008 11/6 8:12 AM
つばきの拳
 56 

>スーパーなんちゃらs
1stキャラ&他人の援助なしで、リアマネ一切使ってないのにそんだけいったらすごいかも☆

そうじゃないならフツーにいける^^

2008 11/6 11:59 AM
殴るぞ、覚悟しとけ
 57 

みなさん、勘違いしてますよ!
スーパーインファイターsはね
ただのインファイターじゃ
【スーパーインファイター】だから強いんだよ
普通に50で5kいくとかまずありえんよ
30%書もロクにないのに・・・
まぁ、そういうことです

2008 11/6 4:25 PM
殴るぞ、覚悟しとけ
 58 

みなさん、勘違いしてますよ!
スーパーインファイターsはね
ただのインファイターじゃ
【スーパーインファイター】だから強いんだよ

2008 11/6 4:25 PM
スーパーインファイター
 59 

58>>30%ないっていっても良品のやつに60%7連すれば相当火力上がると思うんですけど?

2008 11/6 4:31 PM
殴るぞ、覚悟しとけ
 60 

装備教えてw   7連すればって簡単にいうなってw

必死やー(笑)こんなにも食いつくとわなー(爆)
という俺も必死やー俺も食いついてるし 子供やなー俺 大人になろう
そしてこれが最後だ

2008 11/6 4:42 PM
俺ね強いんだぜ
 61 

俺ね、50レベルでタコなしでねカンスト出せるんだ 
ムーンサルトでね タコありだと200kいくんだ 
もうね、強すぎてね、コまっちゃうし
50で5kとかね、もうフツーのいくし、 バリバリいけるし
だからね。みんなもがんばろうw
目指せ1m
あとーwパンチだと480kでます

2008 11/6 4:51 PM
俺ね弱いんだぜ
 62 

俺ね楓最強を歌われた漢なんだけどね
50でねパンチMAXでタコありでねなななんと

1.5kもでるんだ モンカニでは絶対勝てるからって
誘いきまくるんだ   装備はデビルクローのAT98なんだ もうねー10%書張りまくったら7連しちゃってね、メーカーで作ったら運良かったし 促進剤もね
じつは、みんな狩ってないからしら内けどね、
マシーンMTからでるんだ かんばれ

2008 11/6 4:55 PM
雑魚斬り賊
 63 

↑全部同じやつ
 連スレ自重

2008 11/6 4:57 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 64 

>66
はい 偽物乙!

まぁ火力の話題が離れないか?
5kでるからっていってもね
斬り50レベルでサベッジ1k出してる人のほうがずっとすごいし
5Kはちょっと強化うまくいけば出せると思うぞ?
パンチとか最大までためないと5kでないだろ
(120レベルでパンチ即でも3kくらい)
貯めてる間にサベッジ二発は撃てる
単発平均800だとしたら合計で4800
二発で9600
単体相手なら斬りのほうがつよくね?
そういえば投げで50レベルでクリティで3k出してた人いたっけな
4kでてたか?
よく覚えてないけど
5Kで強いなんか言ってちゃまだまだってことかな^^

2008 11/6 5:22 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 65 

ごめん 
離れるとかいっておきながら火力の話してた
ごめ!

2008 11/6 5:23 PM
BAReeeeeeeeeen
 66 

海賊は銃系マゾくないすか?
他の人の火力とか見てても拳の方が強いような・・

2008 11/6 6:44 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 67 

>>74
まぁ確かにそうだな
四次してるのに二次の火力言うのはね・・・・
四次してるなら四次の火力言うのが普通じゃね?
ラピッドフィスト30 ダメージいくつ
まだラピッド30じゃないって?
じゃあ今のレベルと火力プリーズ
どんだけ強いんよ!

2008 11/6 9:46 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 68 


俺105の銃だぜ?
まぁ銃の俺がなんでこんな知ってるかて?
友達とけっこう一緒に狩ってたよ!50代ね

2008 11/6 9:51 PM
BAReeeeeeeeeen
 69 

皆さんパンチの最高攻撃力はいくらまででましたか?

2008 11/7 6:24 PM
卍って何?
 70 

自分は57で5000、、、
最初ガン装備してDEX上げたら強くなったんでナックルに変えたらSTRを上げる方が強くなったのを感じてそれ以来はDEXに振りませんでした。
DEXは素35補正26です。
マントはDEXもういらないと思ってSTRマントにしました。
64になればメイプルGクロー2コあるし書もあるし強化次第で7000行けそうです。

2008 11/8 8:39 AM
BAReeeeeeeeeen
 71 

>>70s
参考ありです。

2008 11/8 2:50 PM
BAReeeeeeeeeen
 72 

パンチ最高~

         天  流

         血

2008 11/10 6:35 PM
匿名
 73 

パンチは3次でも使ってましたが溜め時間長いので途中から使ってません。
@4次ではさらに使いどころがない。
他のスキル優秀だからね。まぁすきる揃うまでのつなぎだな。つなぎ。

2008 11/10 8:32 PM
山田ω56世
 74 

(  ̄- ̄)=○>>>>> (>.< )ノノ

2008 11/13 8:00 PM
雑魚斬り賊
 75 

パンチって即で放つと80%αなのは知ってたかね?
情報ありwとか言うともっと情報教えるよ

2008 11/14 2:56 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 76 

>>77
俺の名前使うな

三次、四次になると溜めが長く感じるらしいね

2008 11/14 4:35 PM
バッカニア
 77 

72で最高8、4Kでました(パンチ)

2008 11/14 6:39 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 78 

>>79
で?
72で8.4kでたからなんですか?
自慢でもしたいんですか?
こういうのが荒れる原因になるまでやめましょうね

2008 11/14 11:46 PM
バッカニア
 79 

日本語おかしいですよ困りますそれで驚いてたら困ります(桃マン)なしですよ?負けてるからって自慢じゃないのにやめてください

2008 11/14 11:53 PM
雑魚切り賊
 80 

まぁけんかするな。たかだかパンチでwww
もっと上をみろよ。

2008 11/15 1:17 PM
雑魚切り賊www
 81 

これで喧嘩だったらお前らなんなの?言い争ってるよね、たかがゲームでそんなに必死でやるなよ

2008 11/15 9:04 PM
雑魚kill賊
 82 

72でパンチ8.4kとか羨ましいよ
俺80で8kやっとでたぐらいだ デソデソで
 今は117だけど 140kにデソデソに出るよ
弱いかも  クリティだと160kぐらいでるね
 日曜日には四次するぞ~w

2008 11/15 11:05 PM
とくめい (ぁ
 83 

140k、160k (笑)

2008 11/15 11:07 PM
sb
 84 

偽者乙w

2008 11/16 2:35 AM
卍って何?
 85 

ゼロ一個多くない?w

2008 11/16 8:18 AM
sb
 86 

偽者乙w

2008 11/16 1:29 PM
BAreeeeeeeeeen
 87 

パンチは三次ではつかわないんdすか?

2008 11/16 8:25 PM
おれ
 88 

たかが、パンチで争いすぎw
゚∀゚)アヒャヒャヒャヒャヒャヒャヒャヒャヒャヒゴッ!!!ゴホッ!ゴホッオエェェェー!!!
まじうけるんですけどw
火力の心配するより自分の方を心配すればw?

2008 11/17 12:06 AM
あんなことやこんなこと・・・
 89 

上のやつわ馬鹿かw?
でも確かにそのとおりパンチでそんな争ってんだったら課金して強化して勝手に競えば?

海賊育ててない自分が言うことじゃないけどさ

2008 11/17 1:41 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 90 

>>81
自慢じゃなかったら何?
参考?
装備とか書かないで参考になるかよw

ただ書いただけ?
自慢したいんじゃないかw

>>89
三次はまだ使うと思われる
四次ではほとんど使われなくなりますが・・・

2008 11/17 4:34 PM
おれ
 91 

パンチは火力高いからいいじゃないヵw

2008 11/17 9:58 PM
↑馬鹿
 92 

強化できない馬鹿だっているんだよ?

2008 11/18 1:41 AM
バッカニア
 93 

72で8、4Kでました気づいたら(隆盛桃マン)なしでした

2008 11/18 1:47 AM
sb
 94 

馬鹿だから強化できないって意味不ですね、、、
かわいそうですね悲しいですねつらいですね

2008 11/18 2:52 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 95 

95:大事なことなので二回いいまし(ry
>>95
二回も言わなくてよろしい
8Kでるならあっという間に四次だよね^^
2週間以内にはいけるよね!

馬鹿だから強化できないのは確かに意味不明だな

2008 11/18 4:42 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 96 

>>98
別にニートじゃなくても普通にいける
ギルマスは海賊一か月で四次してたし
そのギルマス学生だし
もちろん同じ拳
火力はどーだが知らないけど
たぶん今ランカー?だと思われる

さて問題[ニート]とはどういう意味でしょうか?
もちろん知ってて使ってるんだよね

そしていまさら2週間じゃ厳しすぎたw
3~4週間あればいける

2008 11/18 10:25 PM
バッカニア
 97 

人の事を自慢されてもねw その人学生っていっても何時間やってるの?時間でLv早くあがるの関係あるよ?調べてきてよw人の事ばっかり自慢しないで;;乙w

2008 11/19 1:22 AM
あんなことやこんなこと・・・
 98 

自慢してるやつも馬鹿
それに対してまぢでコメしてるやつも馬鹿
>>98
3~4週間あればいけるってのも自慢だろ
この板の本当の意味をもう少し理解して使ったほうが管理人sも喜ぶでしょ

2008 11/19 11:00 AM
kakakakakaka
 99 

4次で捨てスキルだとしても2次ではメインのスキルになると思います。

2008 11/22 10:52 AM
浮世
 100 

>>98                           サクチケ使えば無理でもなくない?

2008 11/22 1:03 PM
ムスカ
 101 

2日で2次はきついw

2008 11/23 8:45 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 102 

>>102
いや サクないと100%無理

>>103
ムスカとか名前似てる人が二人いる
というのは置いといて
がんばれば一日で30はいける
もちろんサクありでだけどね
ちなみに一日で50にするひととかいるらしいよ

2008 11/24 12:37 AM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 103 

そして言いかえ
100%ではないとおもう(

>>100
3~4週間で四次いけるって自慢にならない
三次から四次だからほんとに早い人は一週間でいけると推測
まぁそんだけ時間やってるってことだけどね

ふっ馬鹿だぜ
最初から
72で8.4kでるに対して
で結論は何と聞けばよかったぜb

2008 11/24 1:10 AM
バッカニア
 104 

↑早い人で一週間でやってる人がニートって意味なんだよわかった?

2008 11/24 4:29 PM
冷ペタシート
 105 

1週間w

2008 11/24 5:57 PM
冷ペタシート
 106 

1週間かかせずやってたら目がくさるw

2008 11/24 5:58 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 107 

ふむ
なるほど
[三次から四次まで一週間でやってる人]がニートの意味なんですね
じゃあほとんどの人ニートに当てはまらないですね!
となると俺はあてはまらんよ
俺が頑張っても三週間~四週間かかるし

2008 11/25 12:15 AM
sb
 108 

ニートやなくてもできるやよ♪
ジェネで吸わせれば、、、、、、、、

2008 11/25 4:26 PM
雑魚切り賊
 109 

4次でパンチ使ってる人がいたら
どーゆー組み合わせで使ってるかおせーてw

2008 11/26 6:28 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 110 

パンチ→バックエルボー→ドラゴンストライク

パンチ→ドラゴンストライク

バックエルボorダブルアッパー→ラピッドフィスト

2008 11/26 11:21 PM
冷ペタシート
 111 

メイプル飽きた・・・・・・・・・・・・・                       はぁぁぁぁw

2008 11/27 7:37 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 112 

>>114
なら引退すればいい話

2008 11/28 4:04 PM
鮮血の悪魔
 113 

ところどころこのページと全く関係のないコメがある件について

2008 11/28 5:31 PM
おれ
 114 

ってヵ、パンチの話からそれてる様なw

2008 12/16 10:56 PM
風の源倭
 115 

これはネクソンマジックだとおもうぞw
2次で、420%、3匹ってwww

2008 12/24 6:28 PM
殴打
 116 

ま、火力はおいといて
二次して一番楽しみなスキルだなww

2008 12/24 9:27 PM
四次のくせに二次スキルばっか
 117 

パンチて意外と四次では使わなさそうだけど

結構使うよ 便利だし

それにMOB集めとか攻撃回避とかできるよ

特に フィスト→パンチのコンボはNOダメでし

2008 12/24 11:32 PM
つばきの拳
 118 

長所:
デビやフランケン、ビシャスなどのボスも押せる点。
かなり長い無敵時間。
なかなかの高威力。

短所:
タメという点。
左右でキャラの移動の仕方が異なる点。

レベ100ちょいですが、未だに主力スキルですねー^^
実際、2次にしてはかなり高性能だと思います。

2008 12/25 1:40 PM
海賊蒼鎌
 119 

LV50強化品無し普通振りでパンチ4k出た人っていますか?たこありでもいいです。

2008 12/26 4:21 PM
♬雑魚斬り賊♬
 120 

おれ出たよ

2008 12/26 9:09 PM
雑魚斬り賊
 121 

↑嘘乙 強化品なしで4kですか嘘ですねw装備全部未ってことですよね?しかも普通振りw

2008 12/26 11:21 PM
 122 

確かに強化品なしで普通振りならパンチで4kは出ない
最高でも3k(デンデンに対して)

2008 12/26 11:46 PM
伝説のインファイター
 123 

皆さん パンチ77で最高いくつでましたか? ちなみに僕は77バッカニア頭隆盛ALL10顔DEX5 目なし ネックレスALL1HP60MP60 タオルDEX10 軍手ATK10 ナックルATK70 STR3 靴DEX5 マントSTR10 イヤリングDEX8 で最高パンチ8、7Kでました (普通振り)です。

2008 12/28 9:04 PM
柚子
 124 

私は80で9,8kが最大です
SE無。

2008 12/28 9:24 PM
伝説のインファイター
 125 

ちなみにマントは桃じゃありません ↑多分極だとおもうですけど極なら10Kでてもおかしくないです装備教えてくださいよ エリマキありとないじゃぜんぜん違いますから

2008 12/29 1:12 PM
伝説のインファイター
 126 

柚子S 装備教えてくださいよ ほんとですか? それとも嘘ですか?

2008 12/30 6:01 PM
w卍さくら卍w
 127 

パンチって100れべでなんkでますか?

2009 1/4 6:09 PM
w卍さくら卍w
 128 

それとパンチとアッパーをMAXにしたほうがいいですか?なるべく早めに応答yr

2009 1/4 10:23 PM
 
 129 

>>128
俺は両方MAXにしました(現在77)
4次までがキツイ拳では攻撃スキルがMAXになってるほうが楽かなと感じています。BPを狩る時はバックエルボーもアッパーもパンチも重宝しています
なのでパンチorアッパーを削ってまでオークやMPリカバリーに振ろうとは思いませんでした

あくまで個人的な意見なので俺の振り方に合わせる必要はありません(’
いろんな意見を参考にして自分のスキル振りを考えたらいいと思います

2009 1/5 6:56 AM
匿名
 130 

ありがとうございました。参考にさせていただきます

2009 1/5 12:13 PM
 131 

今45レベなんですけど、1000くらいでした^-^

2009 1/18 9:18 AM
白銀の狼
 132 

一発4000とかどうやったらでんだ?
現在40レベで1000とかしか出ないんだが…

2009 1/18 10:38 AM
桜海賊
 133 

>>131,132
ストレートじゃなくパンチで1Kですか?
そのくらいのレベルならスキルMAX近くまではいってると思うのだが
ステ振りが気になります;

2009 1/18 12:04 PM
柚子
 134 

私は80で7kでました

2009 1/18 5:26 PM
デン
 135 

45くらいならストレートでも3kくらいでてもおかしくないと思うんですけどね パンチなら5kくらいかな

2009 1/18 5:26 PM
殴り殴り
 136 

初めまして~w パンチいいですね~w 早く2次してパンチ使いたいです;w;

2009 1/24 5:21 PM
とくめいきぼう
 137 

なんかのバグでパンチがチャージまでしかできない人はどうすればw
誰か助けてorz

2009 1/28 10:56 PM
白銀の狼
 138 

>>133s
パラダイスMAXでナックルリマスター14で
パンチ7ですwwwあとたこ焼きなしですw

2009 1/29 10:25 AM
あほな海賊
 139 

突然だが
mcのパンチを1でも振ってるまだ下を狩れない
人の効率のいい狩り方を見つけたw(ステ5.6用)
まずできれば一番左上がいいのだが
まあほかでもいい
そしたらまず一番左上の敵がなぜか
動けないのでストレート連射で倒す
そしたら右の台に沸いてる敵に
パンチをためてジャンプして当てると
右の台に移るそっちの敵を倒したら
また左の台に移りそれを繰り返すだけwww
長々とすいません・3・

2009 1/29 10:36 AM
gotyo
 140 

バックエルボーとかのディレイ時間にもパンチのチャージが出来てしまって、でも打てないって感じのときがある。

狩り方についてだが
ロイドならパンチ→ムーン→パンチ…
の様にして無敵タゲ取して、台座に着いたらジャンプで上がってムーン連発
これだと無傷で狩れる

ついでに
上のほうで40代で3kとか5kとか出してる人が居ますが、武器の攻撃力とその他装備の攻撃力を知りたい。

2009 1/31 11:28 PM
ヌヘヘのヘ
 141 

自分はパンチもエルボーも四次しても使っています
パンチは無敵時間、溜めたときの威力、敵を押す(集める)、無傷で敵との間合いを詰める等、魅力の多いスキルなので個人的にはずっと使い続けるオススメスキルです

2009 2/2 2:36 AM
桜海賊
 142 

>>138s
そのスキル条件で Lv40装備時str177(172+5) dex42(40+2) 未強化ネオジャ 無タコ
でダメ約365~762と計算で出るので
未強化ならこんなもんでした
まぁパンチはどんどん強くなるから気にしなくていいかと

長文スマソ

2009 2/5 12:46 AM
デン
 143 

普通に出ると思うんですけど・・・

2009 2/5 8:08 PM
タナ
 144 

普通にでるってあなたの装備教えてくださいよ

2009 2/6 8:59 PM
デン
 145 

M帽子 オウルアイ イヤDEX9 シュピネク3連 タオルベタ ナックルデビル63STR7 軍手10 靴DEX6 マントSTR12で普通に50で5kでます 桃まんないんで雑魚とおもいます

2009 2/6 9:52 PM
デン
 146 

ナックルデビルつよくない!?装備最強じゃん…

2009 2/7 3:19 AM
桜海賊
 147 

>>145s
それは一般的に普通とは言いませんw

2009 2/7 10:32 AM
氷砂糖
 148 

>>145
すごい。。

2009 2/7 1:08 PM
ころんとん
 149 

みなさんパンチを先あげないほうがいいよHP少なくなる(><)

2009 2/14 7:01 PM
陸奥御劔ワド
 150 

そんなことより自慢厨はお帰りください。
そろそろ学年末ですよ。

最初の1ぐらいはパンチに振っても大丈夫な
気がします。むしろその方が楽。
スキルレベル1つ分の体力確保するより俺は
サソリとか狩りやすくパンチを1つあげるかな?

2009 2/16 1:40 AM
デン
 151 

じゃあ雑魚はお帰りください。

2009 2/16 8:49 AM
デン
 152 

自慢?どこが?装備書いただけだけど?自慢なのこれ?そうなの?教えてよ^^

2009 2/16 8:50 AM
海賊蒼鎌
 153 

なんか俺の質問のせいで荒れてる気が;;
不快に思っちゃった人なんかすみませんorz

2009 2/16 2:17 PM
匿名
 154 

俺がガンダムだ

2009 2/16 6:00 PM
カイゾクダマシイ
 155 

ここのログ「デン」さんが二人いてよくみにくいな;
デンAさんが自分弱いといってるのに対しデンBさんは最強じゃんとかいって矛盾してるw
でもデンAさんはDEX強化の極振りだから普通ではないと思いますがね;強化イヤ作る金なんておれにはねぇ笑
>>陸奥御劔ワドさん
やっぱり最初はバイタライズふらないといけません。というかパンチ使い道ありません。集め狩りより槍ムンサルしたほうがレベあがりやすいですから。

おれのMC40レベでパンチ4kでました。56ネオジャ(70%7連)あれば簡単にでるんですねw極ではありません。さあこまってるひとはやってみよう!(費用は15Mくらいかな)

2009 2/16 6:01 PM
デン
 156 

でないほうが不思議なんですけどね極振りでわないんですよね普通なんですけどね50で5kとか弱いよなメーカーあるくせに50で5kとか情けないわ極なら6k7kでるだろうにね。。。

2009 2/16 7:50 PM
陸奥御劔ワド
 157 

装備自体に文句はいうつもりはありません。
言い方についての問題ですね。
自覚をお持ちください。それだけ。
つい感情的になりレスしましたが、私のレスで気分を害した方が
いらっしゃったら申し訳ありません。

そういや槍ムンサルのこと忘れてました(・ω・`)
となるとやっぱりバイタライズですかね。

ネタで最初のspオーク真っ先にあげまry

2009 2/17 1:53 AM
陸奥御劔ワド
 158 

付け足し。

尚、此方はこれ以上パンチの情報等をのせるところでケンカする気は
毛ほどもございません。
反応されてもスルーするので。

2009 2/17 1:54 AM
 159 

基本的に火力自慢してるような人は無視でいいと思うよ

パンチで押せる+無敵時間はいいね
ビシャスでメルプロで狩るとき左にパンチで押して、メル巻き終わったら→に寄せてメルプロしてまた←に押して・・・・・を繰り返せば楽にビシャスに勝てるb
パンチうまく使えばほとんどダメージうけないからね

2009 2/17 3:01 AM
カイゾクダマシイ
 160 

でもパンチやって小ワープできなかったら無敵じゃなくなるwこの現象ジャンプ中にパンチしたり端っこでパンチしたりすると起こるwまあ普通ではこういう状態ならないから問題ないな^^
でもそのコンボつかえるなwうまくいけば70レベでビシャスとかwでも斬りは死ぬリスクあるな;拳はMISSばっかだと経験値吸えないし;
あwエネチャがあったよwこれなら吸える

2009 2/17 5:40 PM
^^
 161 

70lvではビシャス前提終わらせられないですよ^^

2009 2/17 6:11 PM
 162 

クエスト受けられるレベルは60以上って書いてあるけど、80以上じゃないと無理って聞きますがどっちが正しいのだろうか

もし60でもOKなら60でも前提終わらすことできるのね(手伝ってもらえば)

70のコブシじゃエネチャで反射しても即死だと思う(二段階)

2009 2/17 6:21 PM
匿名C
 163 

ビシャスプラントのクエストは、最初の前提クエを受けられるのが60lv以上でビシャス撃破のクエが80lv以上になります(その間のクエは省略・・・)
つまり80lv以上ですべて終わらせるのことができるのです
倒すことができる人がいるのなら、80lvで攻撃しなくてもクエストを終わらすことはできます
一段階攻撃できれば、経験値吸えたと思いますが・・・一段階を80lv以下で耐えられるかは
、微妙なところですねえ

2009 2/17 7:50 PM
らぃる
 164 

一応80レベルでもビシャス討伐はできました。
爆弾にさえ気をつけていれば、生き残れます。
2段階目はHBが無いと即死だったと思いますが…。
生き残ったとしても、攻撃はあたらなかったです(’

エネチャで当てなかったので、今度試させてみます。(友を

2009 2/17 8:12 PM
カイゾクダマシイ
 165 

あ 完全に前提クエのこと無視してたや笑
バイキングたおすのも多分大変だなw

2009 2/17 9:52 PM
カイゾクダマシイ
 166 

話がビシャにそれたのでもどしまーすリバース
おれ拳1stキャラMCやったとき勝つため3:3でパンチでMPKやりまくりました^^w基本的に30代盗賊に効きます。
パンチでロボを飛ばしプレイヤーにあてそのままロムバの蟻地獄におとすwこれで墓したときは気持ちいいです^^MPKとはいえないかなwほんとはよくないけどね 
うん(_ _)

2009 2/17 10:01 PM
らぃる
 167 

MCのMPKは後で叩かれるからやめておいた方が良いかも。

拳なら2:2もそれなりに美味いよね。
ロムバSPありだと軽く1kcpは越える。
基本はパンチ(or肘鉄)→ムンサルのコンボでok
ロムバは回避少ないから当たるはず。

パンチ関係なくなってきたような(’

2009 2/18 9:10 AM
デイィダラ
 168 

1P振るたびに攻撃+15%wwww
強いじゃんあ~早く2次したい

2009 2/27 8:29 PM
くるっくる
 169 

最高420%てww

2009 3/3 12:35 PM
デン
 170 

火力ないと雑魚は雑魚だから^^

2009 3/3 6:52 PM
陸奥御劔ワド
 171 

もっと視野広くしろ消防が

左に向かってパンチすると
たまに移動しないことがあるってのは知ってるんですが
ジャンプしてパンチすると移動するときと
移動しない時があるんですが(・ω・`)
同じ位置です。法則性がつかめなくて常日頃D子にいたぶられてるんですけど。。。

2009 3/4 7:05 PM
らぃる
 172 

確かにパンチの法則性がよく分かりませんね…。
横ズレしたりしなかったり…ランダムなのでしょうか?

2009 3/5 2:38 AM
ラーズィ
 173 

>>173
移動先の足場の高さが関係してるんでしょうか?
ジャンプの頂点でパンチすると移動しないときがあるのはそれのせいだと思います。
あと、坂の上で下りのほうにパンチして移動しないときもありますね。

2009 3/5 4:29 PM
らぃる
 174 

>>174
確かにそうかもしれないですね。

あと、移動中⇒パンチでも
移動方向のキーが感知せず(途中で指を離したり?)
移動しないパンチを繰り出したことも(ry

2009 3/5 4:57 PM
つばきの拳
 175 

パンチでの移動&無敵時間発生に関してはキャラクターの向きが左右どちらなのかで差があります。

まぁこのページの過去のコメに書いてありますょ。

※4次してもパンチは使えますbb
無敵時間による被ダメ回避により、赤字の軽減。
および自身のKB回数減少により、狩り速度低下の防止。

2009 3/5 5:15 PM
・・・
 176 

これ相手からの魔法とかの攻撃を喰らう前に当てちゃえばくらわないってことですよね??そうだったら短くおして緊急回避できるってことじゃないかな?近くに敵いないと意味ないけどなww

2009 3/14 10:57 PM
ラーズィ
 177 

>>176
まさにその通りです。
たまに移動しないときがあり、そのときは無敵時間がでないですが、使い勝手はかないいいですよ。

2009 3/15 11:27 AM
ぁぃぅぇぉ
 178 

既出&知ってたらゴメン

パンチの移動法則についてキャラが右向きのときはほぼ確実に移動します。
左向きのときは発動したとき、足場がほぼ同じ高さのときは移動します。目安(ってほどでもないですけど;;)はキャラの名前の部分ぐらいの高低差なら移動できますね。

長文すまん。

2009 3/17 10:13 PM
ds
 179 

スクリューパンチ?よりも、エルボーとかムーンとかの方がよっぽど効率いいと思います。けどKBが1000とかあるロムバードとかはスクリューの方がいいと思います。ストレート11で1kでたらそれで狩ったらロムバ瞬殺。
スクリューパンチはグルクエを主にやる人ならMAXがいいと思います。はじ寄せとか出来るし。

2009 3/20 7:53 AM
メイプルのザコ人間
 180 

あの~突然ですいませんが質問です
このスキルってマクロに
登録できないんですか??

2009 3/21 2:40 PM
スピット
 181 

あぁ、
それ気になる
なんかできないような気がw

2009 3/21 4:30 PM
通りすがった拳
 182 

マクロは押した瞬間=スキル発動なので、
タメ時間によってダメ等が変化するパンチは
マクロに登録できないのだと思われ。

2009 3/21 5:18 PM
カイゾクダマシイ
 183 

けっこう待ってみたけどこの調子ならこのスキル修正はいらなかったりしてw大半の方修正くると思ってたのに。

2009 3/22 8:50 PM
楓の海賊
 184 

マクロは溜めたりなにかと組み合わせたりするスキルはマクロにできないです。

2009 3/22 10:12 PM
 
 185 

>>184
溜めて使うスキル(スローイン、パンチなど)はマクロに設定できないのはわかりますが、なにかと組み合わせたりするスキルとはどのようなスキルですか・・・?

2009 3/23 12:28 AM
あんぱん
 186 

バックステップショットとウィングスをマクロに設定すると移動に便利。

2009 3/23 7:54 AM
楓の海賊
 187 

FJですかな

2009 3/23 9:37 AM
 
 188 

あぁ、なるほど・・・
FJはジャンプしてからじゃないと発動しませんからね。ありがとうございました!

2009 3/23 11:03 AM
斬り尊敬
 189 

パンチじゃなくてバンチですよ。

2009 4/1 10:53 AM
斬り尊敬
 190 

オレの記憶では。

2009 4/1 10:54 AM
パンチ大好き
 191 

30Lvになって1パンチに振ったんですけど
やっぱ、MaxHP 上がる奴あげたほうがいいかな?

パンチ20 > Max HP up > ダブルパンチ>・・・
が希望なんですけど、HP優先しないときついかな・・・?

2009 4/4 8:34 PM
らぃる
 192 

>>191
拳は接近職になりますので、お墓を落とさないためにも先上げが基本です。

MAXになるまで、ムーンサルト狩りが続きますが頑張って下さい。

2009 4/4 9:11 PM
ヌヘヘのヘ
 193 

拳は近接職の中でも耐久力が低く、振替も場合によっては必要な位なので、MAXHPを1でも多く得られるように、ここは少しガマンしてバイタライズMAXを推奨します

2009 4/5 3:23 AM
・・・・
 194 

このスキルなんかLVあがるにつれて射程距離横に広くなってないすか?気のせいかな???

2009 4/5 5:36 PM
らぃる
 195 

>>194
気のせいじゃないですよ。

魔のテレポートのように、スキルレベルが10レベルまでは距離がかわらず
11から少しずつ広がっていったような気がします。

レベルは曖昧な記憶ですが…;

2009 4/5 6:37 PM
・・・・
 196 

おぉ~そうだったんですか アリガトウゴザイマス

2009 4/6 6:22 PM
 197 

最初の1をこれに振って大丈夫でしょうか?

2009 4/11 10:47 PM
陸奥御劔ワド
 198 

ここで1をバイタライズにあげないと
その後MAXになるまでバイタライズに振るとして、
33→34になるときの体力上昇値が
わずかにモッタイナイです(・ω・`)
人それぞれですし、流石に1だけだとそこまで大差ないので
自分がやりたいスキルをあげてもいいかと。

もちろんあげたいスキルあげた後は速攻
バイタライズMAX推奨です

2009 4/12 12:04 AM
 199 

あり!
そのぐらいならまぁいいや
パンチに一振ったあとバイタライズMAXにします

2009 4/12 9:02 AM
 200 

これ最初に一あげてもパンプキンスピア装備してるから意味なかった
使えねー

2009 4/12 11:11 PM
 201 

Lv55でロイドに最高4200ってどうなんでしょうか?

2009 4/17 10:02 PM
かりまる二世
 202 

ボクのそんなもんでしたよ
そいえばコノ前メーカーで 中級ダイヤ使ってセラピムズつくってみたら64のやつできました
楽しみですw

2009 5/15 7:46 PM
タコス
 203 

なんでこんなにノーマルなネーミングなんだろう・・・

2009 7/21 6:06 PM
とくめいです
 204 

海外のメイプルだとスクリューパンチとかコークスクリューブローとかなんだけどね。
日本のネクソンの翻訳はホントにひどくていつもがっかりさせられる。
今回のシグナス関係の翻訳もひどかったよ。

2009 8/6 9:19 PM
麒麟檸檬様
 205 

パンチとエネルギーバスターってどっちあげたらいいんですか??

2009 8/10 12:40 PM
鉄の拳
 206 

パンチとエネルギーバスター悩む・・・・
でも俺てきにはやっぱり・・・・・
パンチっしょ!

2009 8/11 9:53 PM
匿名
 207 

悩みますねぇ
自分はバスターMAXでパンチ11にしました
とりあえずは11あれば何とかなりそうなので

まぁ、たぶん3次のポイント削ってパンチもMAXにしますが!

2009 8/12 5:37 AM
針xSOYOTAx針
 208 

パンチってためないで打つと
どのぐらいのダメになるんですか?

2009 9/26 4:09 PM
電撃のコブシ
 209 

パンチは一撃必殺だよ^^。だって
俺38だけど、パンチ野狐に食らわしてたら1044
くらいでたもん><

2009 10/21 9:14 PM
鴇時
 210 

209s
意味がわからないのですが?ww

2009 10/22 1:16 PM
ねむぃ・・・
 211 

なんかパンチ補正されたのかな?
やけにダメがあがってる気がする・・

2010 2/10 10:23 PM
華拳
 212 

パンチってまっくすじゃないんですか?!

2010 2/13 11:06 AM
匿名
 213 

別にどっちでもいんじゃね?他にエルボとかダブルアッパとかリカバリとか捨て候補あるんだから
まあ1振りでも十分使えるけど

2010 2/13 4:05 PM
わからn
 214 

Eバスターとパンチってどっちがつよいんですか?

2010 3/21 11:37 PM
 うぅ
 215 

はやく二次したいなぁ~

2010 4/21 3:21 PM
ねこにゃん
 216 

ちゃんとポイントふりあけてるのに
なぜヵパンチができなぃ・・・

なんでですヵ?

ちなみにLV41です

2010 5/19 2:04 PM
ねこにゃん
 217 

↑ふりあけるぢゃなくて

振り分けるです すぃませんっ

連カキすぃませんっ 

2010 5/19 2:05 PM
匿名
 218 

ナックルを装備してますか?
ジョイパで連打設定にしていませんか?

2010 5/19 3:05 PM
ねこにゃん
 219 

装備してますっ
ジョイパッドじゃなぃんですw

なんでヵなぁ・・・--;

2010 5/19 10:22 PM
leaf
 220 

スキルはキーに設定して使っていますよね?
スキル欄をダブルクリックのやり方ではパンチは発動しないので注意。(そんな使い方してる人はなかなかいないと思いますけど

自分が拳のキャラで試したところ普通に使えたのでバグとは違うと思います。

1番怪しいのはキーが反応してない可能性ですね。
試しに確実に反応するキーにパンチを試してみてください(例ジャンプができるならCにパンチをセット)
これでパンチが使えるようでしたらセットしていたキーに問題があります。(例ノートPCにてNumLockがonになっていた為Jキーが使えなかった等)

それでもパンチが使えないようでしたらメイプルの設定等に問題がある可能性が高いです。
1度メイプルをアンインストールしPCを再起動した後再度インストールしてみてください。
それでもダメな場合はセンターにご連絡を。
スレチ長文謝

2010 5/20 4:01 AM
ねこにゃん
 221 

キー設定がおヵしヵったですっw

ぁりがとぅござぃましたっ!!(*ノω・*)

2010 5/25 10:38 PM
liberty
 222 

ぱんち6,5k~7kでる僕は神?_?

2010 7/26 10:35 PM
liberty
 223 

↑ 50Lvでーす( ´,_ゝ`)

2010 7/26 10:36 PM
liberty
 224 

祝福とかオウムとか有だからなんともいえないが5kがどうとかで自慢とかくだらないよ!!

2010 7/26 10:38 PM
iモード
 225 

君は何がしたいんだ?

2010 7/26 10:55 PM
火炎龍響鬼
 226 

自慢したいんだよきっと。
君以外にそのくらいあるいはそれ以上のの火力をもっている
インファイターこれまでに数十人は見たけどね。
 
神なんて言うもんじゃない。

2010 7/27 4:41 PM
バッカニア
 227 

そそb

2010 7/28 9:06 AM
栗太郎
 228 

libertyその程度で神ならうちの弟ゎ王だな

パンチゎ4次以降だとダメージよりも無敵時間、mob集めで使う方が多くなりますのでダメージゎほとんどオマケみたいなものですね

2010 10/23 9:58 PM
火炎龍響鬼
 229 

神の上が王っていうところにイマイチ
納得が行かない・・・
 
スルーしてください。

2010 10/24 9:54 PM
鋳匙堕 猟
 230 

ストライカーで84LV楽しいな★

2011 3/21 2:43 PM
ざこが
 231 

1日で四次だろ(笑 

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